He said, she said.

Clarke on Meet the Press averred that he wants what Frist wants.

MR. RUSSERT: But to be clear, Mr. Clarke, you would urge Congress, the intelligence committees, to declassify your sworn testimony before the congressional inquiry two years ago as well as your testimony before the September 11th Commission?

MR. CLARKE: Yes, and those documents I just referred to and Dr. Rice's testimony before the 9-11 Commission because the victims' families have no idea what Dr. Rice has said. There weren't in those closed hearings where she testified before the 9-11 Commission. They want to know. So let's take her testimony before the 9-11 Commission and make it part of the package of what gets declassified along with the national security decision directive of September 4 and along with my memo of January 25.

In fact, Tim, let's go further. The White House is selectively now finding my e-mails, which I would have assumed were covered by some privacy regulations, and selectively leaking them to the press. Let's take all of my e-mails and all of the memos that I've sent to the national security adviser and her deputy from January 20 to September 11 and let's declassify all of it.

MR. RUSSERT: As well as her responses?

MR. CLARKE: As well as her responses.

The reference to Dr. Bill 'Mengele' Frist(R-Serial Feline Murderer) is that he has been calling for the declassification of some of Clarke's testimony before Congress in July of 2002. In Bushspeak Clarke appears to be saying: Bring it on.

Meanwhile, at CBS on 60 Minutes, Condoleezza Rice mainly sticks to the GOP/White House talking points.

I should note that she reiterated the White House's position that she will not testify under oath in public before the 9-11 Commission.

Rice dissembles while Clarke says get it all out in the open. Not only for the Commission, but for the people to hear.

Today's scorecard:

Clarke - 1

Rice - 0